Comments on: WEBINAR RECORDING – Different Agile Approaches: 1st (XP, Scrum) and 2nd (Lean/Kanban) Generation Methods http://www.AgilistaPM.com/agile-approaches/ Tue, 16 Nov 2010 10:06:33 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Hugh Ivory http://www.AgilistaPM.com/agile-approaches/comment-page-1/#comment-238 Hugh Ivory Wed, 10 Mar 2010 12:45:29 +0000 http://www.DonnaAReed.com/?p=2608#comment-238 I've just viewed the Webinar by Alan Shalloway, and I found it really interesting. The use of the terms FIRST GENERATION to describe Scrum and XP (which are neutral on organisational and business issues), and SECOND GENERATION to describe approaches which take a business focus (the ‘where does the product backlog come from’ bit), is new to me. However, the need for robust business foundations around the delivery process has always been a requirement, and it's refreshing to see that practitioners are now coming to realise that stuff like Scrum and XP can’t exist in a business vacuum. The benefit of Agile, in my view, has always been in the value that it adds to the business, in terms of reduced time to market, certainty of delivery, product quality and usefulness. This value will be best achieved when the work of the team is based on solid business foundations. It is ironic that the term 'SECOND GENERATION' is being used to highlight a concept which has always been a central philosophy and focus of one of the earliest Agile methods, DSDM Atern. Anyone looking to introduce Enterprise level, robust Agile would be well served by taking a look at this. Thanks again for a very infromative webinar. Best Regards Hugh Ivory I’ve just viewed the Webinar by Alan Shalloway, and I found it really interesting. The use of the terms FIRST GENERATION to describe Scrum and XP (which are neutral on organisational and business issues), and SECOND GENERATION to describe approaches which take a business focus (the ‘where does the product backlog come from’ bit), is new to me. However, the need for robust business foundations around the delivery process has always been a requirement, and it’s refreshing to see that practitioners are now coming to realise that stuff like Scrum and XP can’t exist in a business vacuum.

The benefit of Agile, in my view, has always been in the value that it adds to the business, in terms of reduced time to market, certainty of delivery, product quality and usefulness. This value will be best achieved when the work of the team is based on solid business foundations. It is ironic that the term ‘SECOND GENERATION’ is being used to highlight a concept which has always been a central philosophy and focus of one of the earliest Agile methods, DSDM Atern. Anyone looking to introduce Enterprise level, robust Agile would be well served by taking a look at this.

Thanks again for a very infromative webinar.

Best Regards
Hugh Ivory

]]> By: Skip http://www.AgilistaPM.com/agile-approaches/comment-page-1/#comment-234 Skip Fri, 05 Mar 2010 01:23:07 +0000 http://www.DonnaAReed.com/?p=2608#comment-234 Very useful and well-presented overview. Enough good material to be much more than a primer. One of the best webinars of similar length that I have attended. Exceptionally well presented and good use of graphics/slides. Very useful and well-presented overview. Enough good material to be much more than a primer. One of the best webinars of similar length that I have attended. Exceptionally well presented and good use of graphics/slides.

]]> By: Donna Reed http://www.AgilistaPM.com/agile-approaches/comment-page-1/#comment-229 Donna Reed Thu, 25 Feb 2010 21:01:50 +0000 http://www.DonnaAReed.com/?p=2608#comment-229 A recording will be posted. See you in the future A recording will be posted. See you in the future

]]> By: Karen http://www.AgilistaPM.com/agile-approaches/comment-page-1/#comment-228 Karen Thu, 25 Feb 2010 18:41:25 +0000 http://www.DonnaAReed.com/?p=2608#comment-228 So sorry I'll have to miss this. Hope you can repeat it or post it for retrieval. Thanks. So sorry I’ll have to miss this. Hope you can repeat it or post it for retrieval. Thanks.

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